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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2851</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angel, Michigan has laws protecting individuals from bias based on weight too. 

However, that&#039;s 2 of 50 states. 

Bridey, one opinion was stated on universal health care. That doesn&#039;t automatically make this a &quot;lefty&quot; blog. As you can see by the comments, everybody is given a chance to express his or her opinion too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angel, Michigan has laws protecting individuals from bias based on weight too. </p>
<p>However, that&#8217;s 2 of 50 states. </p>
<p>Bridey, one opinion was stated on universal health care. That doesn&#8217;t automatically make this a &#8220;lefty&#8221; blog. As you can see by the comments, everybody is given a chance to express his or her opinion too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2797</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work for IBM. They&#039;ve offered these &quot;incentives&quot; for years. I was told that I&#039;d get paid $100 to quit smoking (I don&#039;t smoke) and another $100 to lose weight (on their terms). My managers told me just to go ahead and sign up for both programs to get the discount, but I didn&#039;t like the idea of having to report my &quot;progress&quot; to someone in the company. It amazes me that more people don&#039;t have a problem with this kind of Big Brother-ing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work for IBM. They&#8217;ve offered these &#8220;incentives&#8221; for years. I was told that I&#8217;d get paid $100 to quit smoking (I don&#8217;t smoke) and another $100 to lose weight (on their terms). My managers told me just to go ahead and sign up for both programs to get the discount, but I didn&#8217;t like the idea of having to report my &#8220;progress&#8221; to someone in the company. It amazes me that more people don&#8217;t have a problem with this kind of Big Brother-ing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2738</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love for the folks who want to measure health by BMI to come to my workplace. On my unit, we have two competitive fitness-bunnies who are about my height (5&#039; and change) and who each have BMIs in the &quot;obese&quot; range. They wear a size 2 and 4, respectively.

One of my other coworkers rows as a hobby. She has a size 16 top and a size 6 bottom and a borderline obese BMI.

I have a BMI of something like 31, but I run three miles in under 24 minutes and lift weights four times a week. The size-14 jeans I buy fall off my waist and fit my squatter&#039;s thighs, but just barely.

The only two people I can think of that might fit the government&#039;s recommendations for BMI are both marathoners, both men, both middle-aged, and both scary-skinny. We&#039;re all quite fit on my unit--I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s overweight, per se--but all of us have BMIs in the unhealthy to obese range.

*sigh*

It would be worth it, to be measured and tested and run through the wringer, just to see a government researcher&#039;s head explode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love for the folks who want to measure health by BMI to come to my workplace. On my unit, we have two competitive fitness-bunnies who are about my height (5&#8242; and change) and who each have BMIs in the &#8220;obese&#8221; range. They wear a size 2 and 4, respectively.</p>
<p>One of my other coworkers rows as a hobby. She has a size 16 top and a size 6 bottom and a borderline obese BMI.</p>
<p>I have a BMI of something like 31, but I run three miles in under 24 minutes and lift weights four times a week. The size-14 jeans I buy fall off my waist and fit my squatter&#8217;s thighs, but just barely.</p>
<p>The only two people I can think of that might fit the government&#8217;s recommendations for BMI are both marathoners, both men, both middle-aged, and both scary-skinny. We&#8217;re all quite fit on my unit&#8211;I&#8217;m the only one who&#8217;s overweight, per se&#8211;but all of us have BMIs in the unhealthy to obese range.</p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>It would be worth it, to be measured and tested and run through the wringer, just to see a government researcher&#8217;s head explode.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in case people are curious, yet another study (this one funded by a comparatively reputable govt agency) found no link between cancer and obesity, unlike the study discussed above:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2007/11/07/gupta.obesity.study.cnn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in case people are curious, yet another study (this one funded by a comparatively reputable govt agency) found no link between cancer and obesity, unlike the study discussed above:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2007/11/07/gupta.obesity.study.cnn" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2007/11/07/gupta.obesity.study.cnn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2698</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read the Mankiw rebuttal to the infant-mortality statistics earlier today, and the discussion here, I thought: there has to be &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; study that looks at infant-mortality statistics controlling for some of the points Mankiw cites -- chiefly, age and health of the mother.  I didn&#039;t get very far in a PubMed search: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=17444423&amp;ordinalpos=18&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;  was the closest-sounding study.

Anyway.  I have recently been reading &lt;i&gt;Good Calories, Bad Calories&lt;/i&gt;, which looks over a series of previous studies on obesity and health and suggests very strongly that (a) it&#039;s not as simple as &quot;calories in, calories out&quot;; (b) there&#039;s not a huge correlation between fat intake and obesity; (c) the most dangerous things for you seem to be starches and sweets.  One of the chapters explains how the federal government, when making up diet regulations in the 1970s, was rather strongly dependent on one particular scientist who was bucking some previous research trends.  I worry that if the government were the central provider of health care there would be graver cases of misdirection.

I&#039;m with Francesca that the corporation should not be in charge of paying for its employees&#039; health care.  Single-pay it or find another solution, but don&#039;t make me have to judge a job on the quality of the health insurance that might come with it at least until HR finds some known-only-to-them reason to switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read the Mankiw rebuttal to the infant-mortality statistics earlier today, and the discussion here, I thought: there has to be <i>some</i> study that looks at infant-mortality statistics controlling for some of the points Mankiw cites &#8212; chiefly, age and health of the mother.  I didn&#8217;t get very far in a PubMed search: <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=17444423&amp;ordinalpos=18&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">this</a>  was the closest-sounding study.</p>
<p>Anyway.  I have recently been reading <i>Good Calories, Bad Calories</i>, which looks over a series of previous studies on obesity and health and suggests very strongly that (a) it&#8217;s not as simple as &#8220;calories in, calories out&#8221;; (b) there&#8217;s not a huge correlation between fat intake and obesity; (c) the most dangerous things for you seem to be starches and sweets.  One of the chapters explains how the federal government, when making up diet regulations in the 1970s, was rather strongly dependent on one particular scientist who was bucking some previous research trends.  I worry that if the government were the central provider of health care there would be graver cases of misdirection.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Francesca that the corporation should not be in charge of paying for its employees&#8217; health care.  Single-pay it or find another solution, but don&#8217;t make me have to judge a job on the quality of the health insurance that might come with it at least until HR finds some known-only-to-them reason to switch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen Graf</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Graf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“The USA is 180 in infant mortality rates.”

It&#039;s true that this statistic may be slightly skewed by data collection processes between different countries, but the US&#039;s major health care indicators are still below many other countries that have socialized medicine.  We SHOULD be #1 on those, considering that we are the #1 spender per capita on health care, by a *large* margin.  I&#039;m not saying that socialized medicine doesn&#039;t have its flaws, but &quot;oh no, we might have to wait in line!&quot; is not really a flaw of the system, it&#039;s a flaw of a country that expects instant gratification in all things.  What does our health care dollar go towards, if not our health?  What are we getting for the $2 trillion we spend on health care each year?  


I&#039;d also like to add that providing a mother with full prenatal care costs less than a single day of ICU care for an extremely low birthweight baby.  Every $1 spent on prenatal care saves $3 in the long-term health of the child.  This is an excellent book on the current state of our healthcare system:

http://www.amazon.com/Health-Care-USA-Understanding-Organization/dp/0763736252/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3174081-3524749?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1194381006&amp;sr=8-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The USA is 180 in infant mortality rates.”</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that this statistic may be slightly skewed by data collection processes between different countries, but the US&#8217;s major health care indicators are still below many other countries that have socialized medicine.  We SHOULD be #1 on those, considering that we are the #1 spender per capita on health care, by a *large* margin.  I&#8217;m not saying that socialized medicine doesn&#8217;t have its flaws, but &#8220;oh no, we might have to wait in line!&#8221; is not really a flaw of the system, it&#8217;s a flaw of a country that expects instant gratification in all things.  What does our health care dollar go towards, if not our health?  What are we getting for the $2 trillion we spend on health care each year?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to add that providing a mother with full prenatal care costs less than a single day of ICU care for an extremely low birthweight baby.  Every $1 spent on prenatal care saves $3 in the long-term health of the child.  This is an excellent book on the current state of our healthcare system:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Health-Care-USA-Understanding-Organization/dp/0763736252/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3174081-3524749?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1194381006&#038;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Health-Care-USA-Understanding-Organization/dp/0763736252/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3174081-3524749?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1194381006&#038;sr=8-1</a></p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed, melissa! it didn&#039;t even occur to me to check what the &quot;institute&quot; actually was - i was just reading all the media reports. thanks for the fact-check and i agree, best to consult with your own physician.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed, melissa! it didn&#8217;t even occur to me to check what the &#8220;institute&#8221; actually was &#8211; i was just reading all the media reports. thanks for the fact-check and i agree, best to consult with your own physician.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2664</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the report, and frankly this American Institute for Cancer Research doesn&#039;t sound very credible.  Here&#039;s their blurb: &quot;Since its founding in 1982, the American Institute for Cancer Research has grown into the nation&#039;s leading charity in the field of diet, physical activity and weight management as it relates to cancer prevention.&quot;  Sounds like an anti-obesity group that&#039;s disguising itself as a cancer research organization.  And I don&#039;t think you misinterpreted their recommendation, Amy -- &quot;normal&quot; BMI is 18.5-25, so 18.5-19 would be &quot;as lean as possible without becoming underweight.&quot;

I think I&#039;ll listen to my real doctor about what&#039;s healthy and what&#039;s not, thanks.  When she tells me that my BMI of 22 is putting me at risk for cancer I&#039;ll listen, but somehow I doubt she will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the report, and frankly this American Institute for Cancer Research doesn&#8217;t sound very credible.  Here&#8217;s their blurb: &#8220;Since its founding in 1982, the American Institute for Cancer Research has grown into the nation&#8217;s leading charity in the field of diet, physical activity and weight management as it relates to cancer prevention.&#8221;  Sounds like an anti-obesity group that&#8217;s disguising itself as a cancer research organization.  And I don&#8217;t think you misinterpreted their recommendation, Amy &#8212; &#8220;normal&#8221; BMI is 18.5-25, so 18.5-19 would be &#8220;as lean as possible without becoming underweight.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll listen to my real doctor about what&#8217;s healthy and what&#8217;s not, thanks.  When she tells me that my BMI of 22 is putting me at risk for cancer I&#8217;ll listen, but somehow I doubt she will.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2654</link>
		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, Melissa. I could be misinterpreting it; somewhere I read 19, other places I have read &quot;the low end of healthy.&quot; (That&#039;s 19, right?) And I agree: when my BMI was 21, everyone was asking me if I was eating. It seems like such a crazy measure. 

Here are the recommendations; there&#039;s also a link to the full report on that site. The specific rec is &quot;Be as lean as possible without becoming underweight.&quot;

http://www.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=dc_home_guides</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, Melissa. I could be misinterpreting it; somewhere I read 19, other places I have read &#8220;the low end of healthy.&#8221; (That&#8217;s 19, right?) And I agree: when my BMI was 21, everyone was asking me if I was eating. It seems like such a crazy measure. </p>
<p>Here are the recommendations; there&#8217;s also a link to the full report on that site. The specific rec is &#8220;Be as lean as possible without becoming underweight.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=dc_home_guides" rel="nofollow">http://www.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=dc_home_guides</a></p>
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		<title>By: class-factotum</title>
		<link>http://manolobig.com/2007/11/04/322/comment-page-1/#comment-2651</link>
		<dc:creator>class-factotum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The USA is 180 in infant mortality rates.&quot;

Ah, yes, but that is because (according to my neo-natal NP sister), many countries do not count as live births children who die soon after birth (like up to a year), because many people come to the US specifically because they have high-risk pregnancies (remember the lady with sextuplets -- quints? -- who came to the US from Canada a couple of months ago?), because we will try to treat sick babies that many countries would let die and because we create more high-risk pregnancies with assisted fertilization procedures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The USA is 180 in infant mortality rates.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, yes, but that is because (according to my neo-natal NP sister), many countries do not count as live births children who die soon after birth (like up to a year), because many people come to the US specifically because they have high-risk pregnancies (remember the lady with sextuplets &#8212; quints? &#8212; who came to the US from Canada a couple of months ago?), because we will try to treat sick babies that many countries would let die and because we create more high-risk pregnancies with assisted fertilization procedures.</p>
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