Comments on: The Big Question: Elbow-Elbow, Wrist-Wrist Edition http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/ Fashion, Lifestyle, and Humor for the Plus Sized Woman. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:04:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Jen http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-16308 Jen Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:15:12 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-16308 I really don't think people voted for her to make a point. She's beautiful and has a lot going for her. I really don’t think people voted for her to make a point. She’s beautiful and has a lot going for her.

]]> By: dcsurfergirl http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15454 dcsurfergirl Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:19:03 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15454 OOPS-I hit the submit button a bit early! As for every woman wanting to be thought of as beautiful, I once heard that from a pageant contestant in some long-ago contest. Just want to give credit where it is due (as much as possible). As for kid pageants, I don't want to pass judgment since my only experience is the JonBenet Ramsey case and "Little Miss Sunshine". I would think there is good, bad and ugly at any level of pageant competition. I would only vote for a plus-size girl if she truly was qualified. Wouldn't any other scenario be discriminatory? Take care, ladies. OOPS-I hit the submit button a bit early!

As for every woman wanting to be thought of as beautiful, I once heard that from a pageant contestant in some long-ago contest. Just want to give credit where it is due (as much as possible).

As for kid pageants, I don’t want to pass judgment since my only experience is the JonBenet Ramsey case and “Little Miss Sunshine”. I would think there is good, bad and ugly at any level of pageant competition.

I would only vote for a plus-size girl if she truly was qualified. Wouldn’t any other scenario be discriminatory?

Take care, ladies.

]]> By: dcsurfergirl http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15449 dcsurfergirl Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:43:32 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15449 I loved beauty pageants as a kid. I would sit up with my grandmother watching Miss America, Miss USA or Miss Universe. I was so fascinated by the beautiful women in the sparkly outfits. This was a big deal to a geeky, chunky kid. I hoped that one day I could enter one, but I never did. I still want to be in one. Let's face it-every woman wants to be thought of as beautiful. Deep down, we all want to fit in. Pageants reflect this thinking. I loved beauty pageants as a kid. I would sit up with my grandmother watching Miss America, Miss USA or Miss Universe. I was so fascinated by the beautiful women in the sparkly outfits. This was a big deal to a geeky, chunky kid. I hoped that one day I could enter one, but I never did.

I still want to be in one. Let’s face it-every woman wants to be thought of as beautiful. Deep down, we all want to fit in. Pageants reflect this thinking.

]]> By: Zoe http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15439 Zoe Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:13:20 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15439 Never been in one, or really thought about them much to be honest. Beauty pageants aren't very common in Australia (yay!) Baby/kidlet pageants are definitely creepy though - you guys should check out the doco "Painted Babies" for some serious ick. Never been in one, or really thought about them much to be honest. Beauty pageants aren’t very common in Australia (yay!)

Baby/kidlet pageants are definitely creepy though - you guys should check out the doco “Painted Babies” for some serious ick.

]]> By: boots http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15435 boots Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:35:19 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15435 <i>Would you –all other things being equal– vote for the big girl just to prove a point?</i> I want to say no, I'd vote for whoever should win, but (embarrassing confession) I've been voting about 20 times each week for Marissa on Dancing With the Stars, and I don't think she's the best dancer at all. I just love that she's on the show. Would you –all other things being equal– vote for the big girl just to prove a point?

I want to say no, I’d vote for whoever should win, but (embarrassing confession) I’ve been voting about 20 times each week for Marissa on Dancing With the Stars, and I don’t think she’s the best dancer at all. I just love that she’s on the show.

]]> By: Anon http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15295 Anon Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:34:44 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15295 How's this for a beauty pageant? http://www.miss-landmine.org/ How’s this for a beauty pageant? http://www.miss-landmine.org/

]]> By: Leah http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15278 Leah Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:00:22 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15278 I think some beauty contests are "appropriate" - ie, contests to become a model for something (like the Sun Tropic one, or whatever). The only way you can figure out who's a good model is by looking at her (or him). So, fine. But the idea of looks having anything to do with being a well-rounded young women who is deserving of a scholarship is kinda silly. The orignal intent (other than likelyhood of finding a husband, which is what girls were going to college *for* when these contests started) was that the girl was physically fit - as well as mentally fit. This has obviously been skewed over the years - esp. since there is no "fitness" competition. However, several women have used their status as a pagent queen to become good will ambasadors, trumpet causes near and dear to their hearts, and provide charity work. I don't care if you're pretty or not, but one more person doing good deeds is good. The end. I've never been in a pagent. I judge my own body enough, I don't need anything confirmed by any outside party, thank you. Maybe I'm a bad person for admitting this, but my first instinct WOULD BE to vote for the big girl. Really, any non-traditional girl. I would vote for a transgender girl. A girl who had a handicap. A girl who grew up with untold hardships. These things make a person stand out of the pack, and give them individuality. I prize individuality, and therefore am inclined to reward it. I think some beauty contests are “appropriate” - ie, contests to become a model for something (like the Sun Tropic one, or whatever). The only way you can figure out who’s a good model is by looking at her (or him). So, fine. But the idea of looks having anything to do with being a well-rounded young women who is deserving of a scholarship is kinda silly. The orignal intent (other than likelyhood of finding a husband, which is what girls were going to college *for* when these contests started) was that the girl was physically fit - as well as mentally fit. This has obviously been skewed over the years - esp. since there is no “fitness” competition.

However, several women have used their status as a pagent queen to become good will ambasadors, trumpet causes near and dear to their hearts, and provide charity work. I don’t care if you’re pretty or not, but one more person doing good deeds is good. The end.

I’ve never been in a pagent. I judge my own body enough, I don’t need anything confirmed by any outside party, thank you.

Maybe I’m a bad person for admitting this, but my first instinct WOULD BE to vote for the big girl. Really, any non-traditional girl. I would vote for a transgender girl. A girl who had a handicap. A girl who grew up with untold hardships. These things make a person stand out of the pack, and give them individuality. I prize individuality, and therefore am inclined to reward it.

]]> By: Cat http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15262 Cat Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:06:21 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15262 "What do you think of beauty pageants?" I think they are ridiculous. "Have you ever been in one?" No. "Would you –all other things being equal– vote for the big girl just to prove a point?" No. I would vote for the big girl if I thought that she was the best contestant. I would not vote for her if I thought someone else was a better contestant. (This is all theoretical, of course, since I wouldn't be judging a beauty pageant in the first place.) “What do you think of beauty pageants?”

I think they are ridiculous.

“Have you ever been in one?”

No.

“Would you –all other things being equal– vote for the big girl just to prove a point?”

No. I would vote for the big girl if I thought that she was the best contestant. I would not vote for her if I thought someone else was a better contestant. (This is all theoretical, of course, since I wouldn’t be judging a beauty pageant in the first place.)

]]> By: Marvel http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15257 Marvel Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:19:02 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15257 I have nothing of insight to add to the above commenters--I agree with them--but I dearly want to know more about the "blackmail!" Who was blackmailing whom? As another student of Southern Woman Jujitsu, exactly what was Plumcake accomplishing by her sacrificial showing in the pageant for the sake of her "friend?" Or what stranglehold did her "friend" have over her that required such sacrifice? There's gotta be much more to this story! Unless, of course, this anecdote is as mythical as the courting English gentleman who calls upon Plumcake to take her for long walks up tall hills in Dior flats... I have nothing of insight to add to the above commenters–I agree with them–but I dearly want to know more about the “blackmail!” Who was blackmailing whom? As another student of Southern Woman Jujitsu, exactly what was Plumcake accomplishing by her sacrificial showing in the pageant for the sake of her “friend?” Or what stranglehold did her “friend” have over her that required such sacrifice? There’s gotta be much more to this story! Unless, of course, this anecdote is as mythical as the courting English gentleman who calls upon Plumcake to take her for long walks up tall hills in Dior flats…

]]> By: Toddson http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15254 Toddson Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:48:51 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/04/09/the-big-question-elbow-elbow-wrist-wrist-edition/#comment-15254 I deplore the mindset that's created the whole pageant thing - that looks are so important, while giving a passing nod to the idea that personality and intelligence matter (remember the girl who gave the inane answer to the question about Americans' inability to locate other countries on a map?). I've never entered one, never even thought about it, but I've never fitted into the standard anyway, so how much of this is sour grapes is open to discussion. And, yes, beauty pageants for little girls are really creepy. I deplore the mindset that’s created the whole pageant thing - that looks are so important, while giving a passing nod to the idea that personality and intelligence matter (remember the girl who gave the inane answer to the question about Americans’ inability to locate other countries on a map?). I’ve never entered one, never even thought about it, but I’ve never fitted into the standard anyway, so how much of this is sour grapes is open to discussion. And, yes, beauty pageants for little girls are really creepy.

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