Comments on: Francesca must lie down with a cold cloth on her brow http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/ Fashion, Lifestyle, and Humor for the Plus Sized Woman. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:06:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Bridey http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26694 Bridey Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:57:16 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26694 So is AP's.... The "terrorist" maroons are at Reuters, however. So is AP’s….

The “terrorist” maroons are at Reuters, however.

]]> By: Sarah http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26667 Sarah Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:50:46 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26667 class-factotum, your bias is showing. class-factotum, your bias is showing.

]]> By: class-factotum http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26164 class-factotum Sat, 24 May 2008 00:09:34 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26164 The AP. Ugh. They call Burma "Myanmar" and refuse to use the word "terrorist," (or is that Reuters?), saying that it's all in your perspective. What a bunch of maroons. The AP. Ugh. They call Burma “Myanmar” and refuse to use the word “terrorist,” (or is that Reuters?), saying that it’s all in your perspective. What a bunch of maroons.

]]> By: Genevieve http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26007 Genevieve Thu, 22 May 2008 12:58:11 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-26007 I second Twistie- I remember when my (not big, but young) sister was in the hospital for endocarditis, and when she came home, her ankles were swollen like she was pregnant, her face was getting puffy...hmmm, all signs of, oh, I don't know, HEART FAILURE? So she and my mom went back and they were like, "Well, you should expect some weight gain, and the ankle swelling will go away, it's in part a response to being in bed for a month..." the hysterical mom response. They did some test and nothing showed up, but all physical signs were there, to the point that my sister couldn't walk like, for two minutes without being out of breath. My mom kept persisting until she found a surgeon who was like, "Um, wtf? This is super serious, get in here NOW, and um, if they said to exercise, don't listen to them, that is the last thing needed right now" did another type of test, found out that there was a small hole on a part of her heart that due to its location, never showed up on the original test. Thank god, he was able to fix it and she's doing great now, but really! Puffy ankles do not = fat, lack of muscle and stamina done does not = automatic OMG UR SICK get thee to a treadmill, hysterical mom = something is very wrong and if a person who has been living in their own skin their entire lives says "look, this doesn't feel *normal*," then you pay attention to that. I second Twistie- I remember when my (not big, but young) sister was in the hospital for endocarditis, and when she came home, her ankles were swollen like she was pregnant, her face was getting puffy…hmmm, all signs of, oh, I don’t know, HEART FAILURE?

So she and my mom went back and they were like, “Well, you should expect some weight gain, and the ankle swelling will go away, it’s in part a response to being in bed for a month…” the hysterical mom response. They did some test and nothing showed up, but all physical signs were there, to the point that my sister couldn’t walk like, for two minutes without being out of breath. My mom kept persisting until she found a surgeon who was like, “Um, wtf? This is super serious, get in here NOW, and um, if they said to exercise, don’t listen to them, that is the last thing needed right now” did another type of test, found out that there was a small hole on a part of her heart that due to its location, never showed up on the original test. Thank god, he was able to fix it and she’s doing great now, but really! Puffy ankles do not = fat, lack of muscle and stamina done does not = automatic OMG UR SICK get thee to a treadmill, hysterical mom = something is very wrong and if a person who has been living in their own skin their entire lives says “look, this doesn’t feel *normal*,” then you pay attention to that.

]]> By: Jennie http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25969 Jennie Thu, 22 May 2008 05:36:28 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25969 Kitteh in Crocs! So wrong in so many ways. My doctor told me my depression would go away if I lost weight. Now considering that both of my skinny sisters and my average mom suffer from depression, makes me wonder if life would be worth living if I were food deprived and thin! Somehow, I don't think so! Kitteh in Crocs! So wrong in so many ways. My doctor told me my depression would go away if I lost weight. Now considering that both of my skinny sisters and my average mom suffer from depression, makes me wonder if life would be worth living if I were food deprived and thin! Somehow, I don’t think so!

]]> By: Lysana http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25942 Lysana Wed, 21 May 2008 23:54:54 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25942 Here, darling Francesca. Have a lovely cat macro that so fits your blog: http://icanhascheezburger.com/?p=52472 I do hope it makes you feel better. Here, darling Francesca. Have a lovely cat macro that so fits your blog:

http://icanhascheezburger.com/?p=52472

I do hope it makes you feel better.

]]> By: Twistie http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25900 Twistie Wed, 21 May 2008 15:07:23 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25900 That first story reminds me of one from my childhood. A friend of mine started running a high fever, complaining of abdominal pain, and vomiting. Her mother, of course, took her to see her doctor...who refused to even examine my friend. Why? Because she was a twelve-year-old GIRL with an hysterical MOTHER. Yeah, that's what was wrong. It was all in her head. It was silly adolescent hormones whose effect was exagerrated by a woman with yet more female hormones. It couldn't have been the fact her appendix was bursting, now could it? By the time her mother got up the nerve to just take her to the ER without the doctor's say so, my friend's appendix had burst and she needed a much more complicated surgery. Oh, and she lost an ovary. It was the one and only time I ever saw my father cousel someone to sue anybody over anything. I only wish my friend's mother had taken his advice. Goodness only knows who else got denied medical treatment by that man for whatever bizarre reason popped into his head. If anyone's got the stomach to read more stories of fatphobia and dismissal of fat patient's symptoms, they might want to check out the blog First, Do No Harm (http://fathealth.wordpress.com/). There's a link on the site to a list of fat-friendly health care professionals by area. If you are looking for a good doctor, you might want to take a look at the list. If you have a gem of a doctor who isn't hysterical about OMG! TEH FATZ!!, you might want to let them know about him or her. That first story reminds me of one from my childhood. A friend of mine started running a high fever, complaining of abdominal pain, and vomiting. Her mother, of course, took her to see her doctor…who refused to even examine my friend. Why? Because she was a twelve-year-old GIRL with an hysterical MOTHER.

Yeah, that’s what was wrong. It was all in her head. It was silly adolescent hormones whose effect was exagerrated by a woman with yet more female hormones. It couldn’t have been the fact her appendix was bursting, now could it? By the time her mother got up the nerve to just take her to the ER without the doctor’s say so, my friend’s appendix had burst and she needed a much more complicated surgery. Oh, and she lost an ovary.

It was the one and only time I ever saw my father cousel someone to sue anybody over anything. I only wish my friend’s mother had taken his advice. Goodness only knows who else got denied medical treatment by that man for whatever bizarre reason popped into his head.

If anyone’s got the stomach to read more stories of fatphobia and dismissal of fat patient’s symptoms, they might want to check out the blog First, Do No Harm (http://fathealth.wordpress.com/). There’s a link on the site to a list of fat-friendly health care professionals by area. If you are looking for a good doctor, you might want to take a look at the list. If you have a gem of a doctor who isn’t hysterical about OMG! TEH FATZ!!, you might want to let them know about him or her.

]]> By: Cat http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25897 Cat Wed, 21 May 2008 14:56:53 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25897 Not being listened to by one's doctors, and being misdiagnosed as a result, is not limited to big girls. It happens to women of all sizes. My mom, who has never been a big girl, was rushed into emergency gall bladder surgery several years ago. She'd been to see her doctor repeatedly about her symptoms, and he did nothing but patronize her and diagnose her with back pain, which he made clear he thought she was faking because, of course, whatever he prescribed for the "back pain" wasn't working and she kept coming back. It wasn't until a woman at my mom's church, who happens to be a nurse, noticed one Sunday morning that my mother was horribly jaundiced that she went to see a different doctor and was immediately diagnosed and admitted to the hospital. Not being listened to by one’s doctors, and being misdiagnosed as a result, is not limited to big girls. It happens to women of all sizes. My mom, who has never been a big girl, was rushed into emergency gall bladder surgery several years ago. She’d been to see her doctor repeatedly about her symptoms, and he did nothing but patronize her and diagnose her with back pain, which he made clear he thought she was faking because, of course, whatever he prescribed for the “back pain” wasn’t working and she kept coming back. It wasn’t until a woman at my mom’s church, who happens to be a nurse, noticed one Sunday morning that my mother was horribly jaundiced that she went to see a different doctor and was immediately diagnosed and admitted to the hospital.

]]> By: Toby Wollin http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25894 Toby Wollin Wed, 21 May 2008 14:28:39 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25894 Yep, as we all know - fat ergo every health problem you have is a) due to teh fat and b) it's all your own fault. My mother, who was never fat, died of congestive heart failure and emphasema due to (wait for it..wait for it) smoking and heart disease. Wait..maybe she was SECRETLY fat...INVISIBLY fat...fat that no one could see...but it killed her anyway? Nope - never fat. She was 5'10", wore a 38A bra(and just try to find those, I tell you), grew up playing basketball, tennis, and field hockey, was active and never fat. Ever. She still developed heart disease and CHF...oh, the fact that every single one of her other 6 sisters and brothers had it too(her younger brother had his first heart attack at 49; her mother died at 62 and her grandmother died of the exact same thing at 55) doesn't count for a thing. Truly. She must have been secretly fat. Yep, as we all know - fat ergo every health problem you have is a) due to teh fat and b) it’s all your own fault. My mother, who was never fat, died of congestive heart failure and emphasema due to (wait for it..wait for it) smoking and heart disease. Wait..maybe she was SECRETLY fat…INVISIBLY fat…fat that no one could see…but it killed her anyway? Nope - never fat. She was 5′10″, wore a 38A bra(and just try to find those, I tell you), grew up playing basketball, tennis, and field hockey, was active and never fat. Ever. She still developed heart disease and CHF…oh, the fact that every single one of her other 6 sisters and brothers had it too(her younger brother had his first heart attack at 49; her mother died at 62 and her grandmother died of the exact same thing at 55) doesn’t count for a thing. Truly. She must have been secretly fat.

]]> By: Chaser http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25889 Chaser Wed, 21 May 2008 13:52:53 +0000 http://manolobig.com/2008/05/21/francesca-must-lie-down-with-a-cold-cloth-on-her-brow/#comment-25889 "His overweight wife" may well have become overweight because of the condition that tied her to the oxygen because that so limits your activity--iow, the causation could be the other way around (the condition caused the weight gain rather than the weight gain causing the condition). What am I saying? As soon as you can see somebody is fat, of course you already know everything you need to know about him/her. You know how healthy she is, you know how in control she is of her life, you know she has terrible self-esteem and daddy issues--I mean, it's all just so obvious. “His overweight wife” may well have become overweight because of the condition that tied her to the oxygen because that so limits your activity–iow, the causation could be the other way around (the condition caused the weight gain rather than the weight gain causing the condition).

What am I saying? As soon as you can see somebody is fat, of course you already know everything you need to know about him/her. You know how healthy she is, you know how in control she is of her life, you know she has terrible self-esteem and daddy issues–I mean, it’s all just so obvious.

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